The Oscars are this Sunday, but before you work yourself into a rage over the fact that La La Land did/didn’t win, check out the new episode of The Dive.

Episode eight features the showdown between realism and escapism through the Best Picture showdown of Moonlight and La La Land. Is one better than the other? Depends on who you ask.

Timecodes for the segments are in the SoundCloud description. Happy listening.